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David Heyman on Deathly Hallows Split: "An Emotional and Very Truthful" Break

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Posted by: sue
December 19, 2008, 08:09 AM

Harry Potter producer David Heyman has given a new video interview where he comments on the two scripts and breaking point for the upcoming Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Talking to who let us know of their interview which you can see here, David Heyman noted he had just been in London discussing the scripts for DH part one and part two with director David Yates and screenwriter Steve Kloves. When asked about the breaking or ending point of movie one, Mr. Heyman said it wont necessarily be an action- packed moment but "an emotional and very truthful" point that fans will be happy with. 

The Potter producer also makes some very positive comments on the sixth film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince noting it is  finished at this point, and has a running time of about 2 and a half hours.

Thanks so much Steve!

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There is an entire thread in the Argent Scrim’s part on Leaky where we talk about this. If they end it with Ron leaving, here are the problems:

Makes people really suspenseful and hate Ron, which shouldn’t be how you feel when you are waiting for six months. Do you really want the movie world to hate Ron for 6 months when it’s only two and a small moment in the book? It would cloud the beauty of the Silver Doe scene. And it’s so close to the beginning that they cram too much in the last part.

When Ron comes back is still too close to the beginning, but it will lead to a little more resolution.

There is no “Truth” in breaking it when Ron leaves. If you do that, then you’re breaking it on a lie. Ron didn’t want to leave, the locket influenced him, he tried to come back. But Harry and Hermione and the Movie/Readers don’t know that.

There’s truth and emotion when Ron comes back, but also action.

Dobby’s funeral seems the most likely to me.

Posted by EruditeWitch on December 19, 2008, 12:57 PM report to moderator

First, YAY for HBP being nearly two and a half hours, as long as that means 2 1/2 hours and not 2 hrs. 15 minutes. He was being a bit nonspecific, really.

Second, I have always been of the opinion that after Dobby’s funeral would be the best place to break the two. The things that need to happen after that are extremely time consuming and the Battle of Hogwarts needs to be EPIC. That equals time.

Remember that not every little thing in the book is going to make it into the movie, even if they stay as true as possible to it. We know the wedding is likely to be cut, unless they use Tonks & Lupin’s wedding instead, because Bill and Fleur’s storyline is already out. If we see the stuff at the Ministry at all it is going to be greatly compressed, but I doubt we will even see it. They are not going to want that great length of time out of the film spent on the trio being played by other people, as they are Polyjuiced the entire time. The Mundungus storyline has already been cut as well, so are they even going to involve Umbridge having the locket? I think they will just find it at 12 Grimmauld Place and be done with it. I guess that will depend on exactly how the locket gets handled in HBP, but Jo was having fun torturing Umbridge a bit more in that sequence, and while I love it, it is not critical to the film. That would likely eliminate or shorten Kreacher’s Tale as well. The “Life & Lies” and all of DD’s past is going to be seriously compressed, too, because while it’s important it is hard to translate to the screen and we can get Harry’s journey and process from it without expending a lot of screen time on it.

On top of that, I think it is vitally important to have the visit at Xeno’s in the first half of the film. It is called Deathly Hallows for a reason and if we don’t get to that part of it movie only people will have no clue what the title is even about and that is a lot of extra ground to cover if it’s left for the second movie. Now, they could change the order of that, of course, to happen before Ron leaves or something, but then there would not be an event for the trio to go to and finish re-cementing their relationship after he comes back, except to go right to Malfoy Manor and I think something else has to happen in between those two things. Ron and Hermione need to be solidly together again before that scene for the emotions and everything they go through there to work.

So, having said all of that, there is a great deal they can at least shorten, if not eliminate entirely, from the first half+ of the book, and the last bit from Dobby’s funeral onward needs extra time. I do like the idea of cutting it when Ron comes back for the emotional impact (when he leaves is way too soon, IMO), but I would be very worried about what they’d have to shorten/cut in the second film if they did it there.

In the end, though, none of it REALLY matters, I just want to see it all NOW. :)

Posted by LemonFaerie on December 19, 2008, 01:08 PM report to moderator

2.5 hrs! Sweet!!!

Posted by blu3tick on December 19, 2008, 01:15 PM report to moderator

like many of you i think they should spilt in one of these 3 options..
*lovegoods house

  • ron returns
  • or dobbys furneal.
    personally as long they spilt it in the middle of the book & stay true to the characters & plot i’m happii!
Posted by brittany on December 19, 2008, 01:57 PM report to moderator

I had thought that when Ron’s return would be the best part, but so many people are saying it’s too early (don’t remember myself). It has to end on an upbeat- it’s hp, it should be a story in itself. As such, i say the best time would be when dobby dies and Harry buries him with his own hands. They need to have the troll or whatever he was come to harry after watching him do this and pledge his and his peoples’ loyalty. It’s emotional yet very uplifting and has the trio together besides (heck, it will have even more).

Posted by radcakesfan on December 19, 2008, 02:08 PM report to moderator

If we are ending it upbeat, then the line where Hermione says “I haven’t ruled it out” would be amazing.

Posted by EruditeWitch on December 19, 2008, 02:22 PM report to moderator

I don’t think anyone has commented on this yet….. I went to the link where the video interview is supposed to be, and there is no video interview! Just a mention saying “check here tomorrow” or something.

Anyone else?

- M

Posted by Marcheline on December 19, 2008, 02:36 PM report to moderator
breaking news

@ Mimblewimble

thank you for your opinion, but there is so much drama in that scene, that I feel that is a great place to split the movie, and about in the middle of the book.

Posted by breaking news on December 19, 2008, 02:44 PM report to moderator

@ ljamied

A lot of the fandom thinks that they’ll have the wedding be Lupin and Tonks. I think I actually prefer that to Bill and Fleur, tbh. I wish we had seen them bet married in the book. Anyway, that would help with the whole Teddy storyline.

Posted by mollywobbles23 on December 19, 2008, 02:45 PM report to moderator


Not bet.

Posted by mollywobbles23 on December 19, 2008, 02:46 PM report to moderator

what about them cutting it like half-way through the book i’d say about the part that dobby dies thats very emotional and it’s also the point where harry starts to understand the truths of his quest

Posted by Garry on December 19, 2008, 02:56 PM report to moderator

I still think that a great place to make the cut will be the death of Dobby. It’s a very emotional scene and a great way for leaving the audience to want more. It can be cut with having Harry holding Dobby and not really being sure whether or not he dies. Then the 2nd half can open with Harry digging Dobby’s grave and moving inside to being the final preparations for the Gringotts break-in and the Battle for Hogwarts.

Posted by hpbruin on December 19, 2008, 02:59 PM report to moderator

by about, do they mean like 145-148 minutes? I mean, they’re long, but I was hoping it would be the longest.

Posted by Akshay on December 19, 2008, 03:15 PM report to moderator

I’ve always felt it would be when Ron leaves or comes back.

What cruelty if it would be when Ron leaves…. I’d LITERALLY have to wait months for him to come back.

Posted by AJWC1 on December 19, 2008, 03:27 PM report to moderator

Here’s another vote for Dobby’s death!

Remember… the split should not be based on an even number of chapters or screen time. If one film is 1/2 long than the other (but not much longer than that) it’s okay, as long as the films have a natural break point and everything that needs to be said is said. And we have to keep in mind the cuts they will make. Chapters like In Memoriam, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore, etc.

Dobby’s death is a very natural ending point. But obviously under the condition that he returns sometime before that. We have a big climatic battle at Malfoy Manor and I think that Dobby’s death falls under “a very emotional” and Harry’s realization of the tasks ahead of him is “very truthful”. This is a short break in the story before an intense second half. Another reason I like this idea also because I like would very much like the idea of the second film starting at Shell Cottage with Teddy Lupin being born and Harry becoming his godfather. That’s a very emotional scene!!! Harry is very touched but is worried because he doesn’t want anything to happen to him as it did to Sirius. So we have a highly emotional scene of realization before preparing himself for the most epic twenty-four hours of his life!

I’m still thinking as I read this, that the “emotional and very truthful break” will be Ron’s return an idea that David Heyman has touched upon before. I don’t care how it comes across, as long as it’s done… correct!

Posted by T-Vey on December 19, 2008, 03:39 PM report to moderator
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